Critiquing: #005 — Qs on the life of St Paul, justification and predestination
January 16, 2019 | Ask NT Wright Anything – Premier
St. Paul’s Life — Justification Doctrine — Predestination Debate — Pauline Theology — Election and Grace
Episode Assessment:
| Metric | ——— | Commentary |
|---|---|---|
| Degree of Accuracy | B+ | Generally accurate with well-substantiated claims, but some interpretations are debated among scholars. |
| Degree of Coherence | A- | The arguments are logically structured, connecting historical context with theological insights. |
| Absence of Fallacies | B | Minor logical inconsistencies, but overall arguments are sound. |
| Degree of Evidence | B+ | Substantial references to historical texts and scholarly works, though some claims rely heavily on interpretation. |
| Degree of Testability | C+ | Many claims are theological and interpretive, making empirical testing difficult. |
| Rational Confidence | B | Arguments are well-supported within their theological framework, though confidence is moderated by the interpretive nature of the content. |
Potential/Apparent Weaknesses:
1. Degree of Testability
The claims presented in the podcast are primarily theological and interpretive, making empirical testing challenging. NT Wright discusses the doctrines of justification and predestination, but these are inherently difficult to verify through empirical means. For instance, the assertion that “God’s declaration of justification is for all who are in Christ” relies on theological interpretations rather than empirical data.
“So justification is God’s declaration that all those who are in the Messiah are part of the same family and that their sins are forgiven.”
2. Rational Confidence
While the podcast provides well-supported arguments within a theological framework, the confidence in these arguments is moderated by their interpretive nature. Wright’s discussion on justification and predestination reflects deep theological beliefs, yet these interpretations are not universally accepted, affecting the overall confidence in the claims made.
“It’s more complicated. If you start with the post-Luther questions, then okay, we can have great fun going through the 16th, 17th century through to the 21st, different theories of how people get justified…”
Formulations of Major Arguments
Argument #1: Justification by Faith
- Premise 1: Justification is God’s declaration that those in Christ are forgiven and part of God’s family.
- Premise 2: Traditional interpretations often misrepresent the biblical context of justification.
- Premise 3: A proper understanding of justification involves recognizing its basis in the covenantal and communal aspects of faith.
- Conclusion: Therefore, justification by faith should be understood as inclusion in God’s family rather than a legalistic transaction.
Counter-Argument: The concept of justification by faith is complex and varies significantly among different theological traditions. Critics argue that reducing it to inclusion in God’s family overlooks the legal and individual aspects emphasized in other parts of scripture. This reductionism may obscure the multifaceted nature of justification, which includes both relational and legal dimensions, challenging the assertion that it can be fully understood through a single interpretive lens.
Argument #2: Predestination and Election
- Premise 1: The language of election in the Bible is rooted in the story of Israel and God’s plan for the world.
- Premise 2: Predestination should be understood within the context of God’s overarching plan for humanity.
- Premise 3: The New Testament portrays Jesus as the elect one, and believers are chosen in him.
- Conclusion: Therefore, predestination and election are about being chosen to carry forward God’s promise rather than pre-selection of individuals for salvation.
Counter-Argument: The doctrine of predestination is contentious and has been interpreted in various ways throughout church history. Some theological traditions emphasize God’s sovereignty and the pre-selection of individuals for salvation, which directly contrasts with the communal and purpose-driven interpretation presented by Wright. This difference in understanding highlights the complexity of predestination and challenges the notion that it can be adequately explained by focusing solely on God’s plan for humanity without considering individual election.
Argument #3: The Role of Faith in Salvation
- Premise 1: Salvation is by grace through faith, not by human effort.
- Premise 2: Faith is the means by which individuals participate in God’s promise and become part of the family of God.
- Premise 3: The New Testament emphasizes faith as central to the believer’s relationship with God.
- Conclusion: Therefore, faith is the foundational element of salvation, enabling believers to receive God’s grace.
Counter-Argument: While faith is undeniably central to Christian theology, the emphasis on faith alone can lead to an oversimplification of the complexities of salvation. Critics argue that this perspective may neglect the role of works, community, and ongoing spiritual growth in the believer’s life. A holistic understanding of salvation encompasses faith, but also recognizes the importance of living out that faith through actions and relationships within the Christian community.
Argument #4: The Historical Context of Paul’s Teachings
- Premise 1: Paul’s teachings are deeply rooted in his Jewish background and the socio-political context of his time.
- Premise 2: Understanding Paul requires recognizing the influence of his context on his theology.
- Premise 3: Paul’s letters reflect a nuanced engagement with the cultural and religious issues of his day.
- Conclusion: Therefore, a proper interpretation of Paul’s teachings must account for their historical and cultural context.
Counter-Argument: While the historical and cultural context is crucial for understanding Paul, overemphasis on context can lead to relativizing his teachings. Critics argue that focusing too much on the socio-political background may obscure the universal and timeless aspects of Paul’s message. Balancing contextual analysis with the recognition of the enduring theological principles in Paul’s writings is essential for a comprehensive understanding of his teachings.
◉ Addressing Argument #3:
The Coherence of Faith Exceeding Evidence
Introduction
Faith is a term with denotations that are highly debated. Since the term is most commonly invoked in religious contexts, it is perhaps best to allow religious leaders to define faith. You’ll find input from 406 Christian ministers on the notion of faith in a 2023 project called the Christian Thought Survey.
The Problem of Faith Exceeding Evidence
The notion of faith among these Christian leaders appears to reflect a degree of belief that exceeds the degree of the evidence. This discrepancy can lead to several significant issues from epistemological, practical, and ethical perspectives. The primary concern is that belief should be proportionate to the evidence supporting it. When belief exceeds evidence, it undermines the reliability of the belief system, leading to epistemic irrationality.
Epistemological Concerns
From an epistemological standpoint, beliefs exceeding evidence challenge the criteria for what constitutes justified belief. Epistemology, the study of knowledge, suggests that beliefs should be aligned with the available evidence. When faith surpasses evidence, it creates a foundation for beliefs that are not justified by empirical data, leading to potential irrationality.
Practical and Ethical Implications
In practical terms, such faith can lead to the misallocation of resources. For example, significant time and money might be invested in pursuing claims that lack sufficient evidence, diverting resources from more evidence-based endeavors. This misallocation can result in missed opportunities for advancements or solutions grounded in stronger evidence.
Ethically, excessively strong beliefs without the corresponding strong evidence can lead to harm. For instance, belief in unfounded medical treatments can lead to neglect of effective treatments, causing harm to individuals. Similarly, strong ideological beliefs without sufficient evidence can fuel conflict and intolerance, impacting societal harmony.
Impact on Decision-Making and Progress
Decisions based on beliefs that exceed supporting evidence can lead to poor outcomes, both personally and professionally. Effective decision-making requires a balanced assessment of evidence and risks. Distortions in this process due to overconfidence in beliefs can result in actions that are not in one’s best interest or the best interest of others.
Furthermore, in scientific and intellectual pursuits, overconfidence in beliefs beyond available evidence can stifle progress. Scientific advancement relies on the readiness to revise beliefs in light of new evidence. Overconfidence can hinder inquiry, debate, and the necessary revision of beliefs for progress.
Counter-Arguments and Nuances
While belief exceeding evidence is generally problematic, some argue that faith plays a crucial role in personal and creative exploration. Are there personal realms like spirituality or philosophical inquiry in which exploring ideas beyond strict evidence might be necessary for individual growth? Is abandoning a commitment to epistemic honesty ever warranted?
These contexts do not negate the need for critical thinking and evidence-based approaches. A critical and reflective approach, combined with awareness of personal biases and susceptibility to misinformation, is essential when navigating beliefs beyond demonstrably true facts.
Conclusion
In summary, while belief and evidence are not always perfectly aligned, significantly exceeding the degree of perceived evidence when forming beliefs can lead to a range of problems and runs counter to an optimal disposition of an honest seeker. These issues span personal, professional, and societal levels, highlighting the importance of critical thinking, skepticism, and continual reassessment of beliefs in light of new evidence. Encouraging a mapping of belief to evidence is crucial for maintaining rational, ethical, and effective decision-making processes.



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